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An excerpt from an interview with Guy Picciotto of Fugazi
by: Yogesh Chawla and Sachin Pandya
The entire 17 page interview appears in the poetry journal PGI #5
Full Disclosure: Fugazi is a band that originated in DC in the late
1980’s. Guy Picciotto sings and plays guitar for Fugazi. We had a
very interesting discussion with him, as well as a good time. We hope
you do too. This interview was conducted with 3 phones and a tape
recorder on October something, with a little bit of help from Yogesh’s
cat, little Che Guevera...
Yogesh: Your music and lyrics have always been politically active and
aware. If you take songs like ‘Lockdown’, you’re talking about the
current prison situation or ‘Recap Modotti’ you’re talking about the
hardships that immigrants face. We’re wondering what you feel really
strongly about right now? Also you guys play your whole entire set
list, and a song like ‘Lockdown’ is a little older but does it become
more important to you as conditions in prisons deteriorate?
Guy: Well it’s weird, to me, the songs, we never think about them as
being time contextually bound. I never feel weird about doing songs
that we wrote 14 or 15 years ago. They seem as relevant to me now
as they ever did. You’re right, we play everything. When we go on
tour we basically relearn every single song that we ever wrote. We
make up the set as we go along, every night is different. So it’s kind
of like we are always really in touch with our entire output. I think
that a lot of times there’s almost this sense that there shouldn’t be
any freedom to what you can do with a political song like it has to be
generic in this way. I think it’s always really funny that a lot of peo-ple
who write songs, they shy away from addressing anything political
because they feel like it’s so confining to have a stance. But to me, I
don’t see a division between subject matter within lyrics. To me writ-ing
lyrics, the one thing that’s great about it is that there’s a freedom
to it. If you want to address a political thing or a non political thing
or if you want to address a political thing in a way that’s incredibly
nuanced or very complicated and isn’t maybe necessarily clear, I think
that’s as valid as writing something which is a bombastic anthem
that’s really obvious. I don’t see why you can’t do both, or why you
can’t do different things within it that makes things confusing. We
have a song, ‘Do You Like Me,’ people ask me about it all the time
because it seems to be so fragmented. It’s like all of a sudden there’s
political material in what had seemed to be just a love song. It is
unsettling to them. I just don’t understand why there isn’t the same
freedom afforded to someone who is trying to write something politi-cal
as somebody who is writing something else. It’s kind of like why
can’t ‘The Times They Are A Changing’ be like somehow impregnated
with ‘I Am the Walrus’? Why can’t they be the same thing?
Sachin: Right, that’s something that we are also facing with poetry.
There’s this question of ‘oh, are you a political poet or are you just a
poet’. How do you respond to these things?
Guy: I find it kind of absurd. If you’re a human being and you live
and breathe, you obviously have some kind of political viewpoint or
political things affect you or social events affect you. Things just
affect you. I have just never understood the compartmentalization of
the whole thing.
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Yogesh: We experienced similar things. We went to this school board meeting,
just the kind of looks that we were getting while we were leaving or even just
the people who were talking to us about the issue. If you say anything that is
against what the national thinking is right now, you put yourself in a really
difficult position because you’re looked at as unpatriotic. These events, they
were really tragic, but they’re also really tragic in the sense that all these
important causes like protesting the IMF, protesting the World Bank, the WTO,
and bringing awareness to these issues, It’s seen as unpatriotic to do that.
Guy: I think people now have to be seriously fucking brave and also
seriously intelligent about the way they do stuff. I think now it’s really
important for people to be on top of their shit but also to keep struggling
and to keep not being intimidated. There were some peace protests here in DC
that I went to and the feeling was so strange because the only people who would
really show up, it was like the serious fringe, which was great. It was great
that they had the courage to come out, but it really makes you wonder where the
more middle of the road progressive people are standing right now. I just
think the silence is really eerie.
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The entire 17 page interview appears in the poetry journal PGI #5
Check back here because we will update the site with audio from the interview
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